I located a source and ordered 50 feet (the minimum quantity that Gates distributors will sell) of the Gates LL2MR09 belt (about $2 per ft. shipped).
One of the things that has always bother me about the Chinese belt was that there are exposed glass fibers along its edges. Well, the Gates belt has that, too. Both belts are neoprene with fiberglass core, both 2 mm pitch, and both 9 mm wide.
SKU | 9396-0052 |
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Part Number | LL2MR09 |
Profile | GT |
Pitch | 2 mm |
Top Belt Width per strand (mm) | 9 |
Tensile Cord | Fiberglass |
Core Material | Chloroprene |
Fabric Cover | Nylon |
RMA Oil and Heat Resistant | Yes |
Min Order Qty | 50 ft |
Max Cont Length (feet) | 300 ft |
Product Number | 93960052 |
Weight | 0.0200 |
Manufacturer | Gates |
Brand | Gates |
The Gates belt has nylon facing on the teeth which Gates says decreases wear and increases the life of the belt (and pulley?). Gates also specifies an operating temperature range of -54 to +85 C, so it should be fine inside a heated enclosure for printing ABS. I was unable to locate any operating temperature range spec for the Chinese belt.
The Chinese belt doesn't seem to have a nylon facing on the teeth, but I can see what appear to be the ends of threads embedded along the tooth surface under a microscope.
Gates belt specs
In the following photos the Gates belt is on the bottom and the generic Chinese belt in on the top.
Chinese belt on top, Gates belt on the bottom. The gates belt has nylon coating on the teeth. |
The chinese belt, top, appears to have fibers embedded in the tooth surface, and the teeth look slightly larger than the Gates belt teeth. Glass fibers (brown) are visible on the edges of both belts. |
Glass fibers are visible in the edges of both the Chinese and the Gates belts. |
One minor difference is that the slicing of the Chinese belt doesn't seem to be particularly accurate. If you watch the edges of the belt as it moves on the printer, they seem to move up and down as if the top and bottom edges aren't parallel everywhere. The Gates belt doesn't do that.
I ran some print tests and there didn't appear to be any difference in print quality. Maybe the parts I printed weren't good for showing the differences. I'll be trying more prints and if I run into anything that reveals a big difference I'll post it here. It was enough effort to swap the belts that I don't expect to be doing it again without a really compelling reason.
This video shows one of the test prints- I turned up junction deviation to 0.2 (from 0.05) to induce ringing, and made the straight runs long enough to allow a peak speed of 250 mm/sec. I used the same gcode with the only difference between the prints being the belts in the XY stage. To my critical and microscope assisted eye, the prints are essentially identical. The ringing looks the same, the layer registration at the corners looks the same. Meh.
UMMD printing ABS at 250 mm/s from Mark Rehorst on Vimeo.
In the short term, these belts seem to perform pretty much the same, but print quality isn't the only criteria by which to judge a belt. If one belt outlasts the other and the drive pulleys used with one or the other last longer, one belt or the other might be better.
I ran some print tests and there didn't appear to be any difference in print quality. Maybe the parts I printed weren't good for showing the differences. I'll be trying more prints and if I run into anything that reveals a big difference I'll post it here. It was enough effort to swap the belts that I don't expect to be doing it again without a really compelling reason.
This video shows one of the test prints- I turned up junction deviation to 0.2 (from 0.05) to induce ringing, and made the straight runs long enough to allow a peak speed of 250 mm/sec. I used the same gcode with the only difference between the prints being the belts in the XY stage. To my critical and microscope assisted eye, the prints are essentially identical. The ringing looks the same, the layer registration at the corners looks the same. Meh.
UMMD printing ABS at 250 mm/s from Mark Rehorst on Vimeo.
In the short term, these belts seem to perform pretty much the same, but print quality isn't the only criteria by which to judge a belt. If one belt outlasts the other and the drive pulleys used with one or the other last longer, one belt or the other might be better.
Very nice post! Thanks for the analysis. Likes like belt longevity and less stretch are the only real benefits (if even those).
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